How about at the very beginning of "Superman; man of steel; chapter 0" and "Superman; man of steel; chapter one", both movie's co-directed by Steven Spielberg and Sophia Copolla... when at the very beginnings of these two movie's... The four Phantom Zone Villains are in the glass-mirror Phantom Zone mirror-crystal-prism which is careening thru outer-space from Krypton not long before Krypton.. detonates itself.. not long before the planet Krypton .. commits suicide like a palestinian suicide-bomber.. within the mirror-glass image of the Phantom Zone.. instead of Victoria Hill's Ursa.. crying out as Sarah Douglas did, the words, ".. Forgive me!!.. Forgive me!!..".. Victoria Hill's Ursa, from within the mirror-glass of the Phantom Zone mirror-image of Victoria hill ursa.. Victoria Hill Ursa cries out instead...".. May God rain forgiveness on your soul, Jor-el.. May God rain a lake of fire of forgiveness upon you soul, Jor-el!!.."... Jor-el is played by Gary Oldman in these movie's....