.. and then their's Fred Hembeck..

Fred Hembeck:..".. wait.. sorry.. I gotta tell you guys.. the madness of Poison ivy has to stop.. it happened with Lois Lane.. exactly the same thing happened with Lois Lane.. I think it was a Silver Age Superman comic.. that happened with Uma Thurman's Poison ivy in "Batman and Robin".. maybe their's no other better term for it than "Blowback".... it's what happened when Poison ivy disconnected Mr. Freeze's wife from life-support.. and then when Batman finds out and shows a video of her flagrant confession to doing this to Mr. Freeze.. and everything that.. it's the horrific reaction .. the horrific response to this that happens in the comics.. it's something with a very excellent Poison ivy writer named John Francis Moore who I really don't think is at fault here.. it relegates Poison ivy away from any status whatsoever as a villain, as a woman with a uniformly abrasive attitude toward humankind who loves only plants and maybe very likely also animals and only them, never humans, on planet earth.. that's who Poison ivy is supposed to be in the comics.. and when she wasn't allowed to be Mr. Freeze's loyal friend in "Batman and Robin"... the response in the comic book realm was horrific.. she became the ultimate generic hero and a truly horrific, horrifying hero.. in the comics.. Paul Dini brought back the real Poison ivy and was ready for her to become one of the most beloved characters in comics again.. I think A. J. Liebermann also excellently succeeded in that department many years before Paul Dini.. in his "Gotham Knights" run... so did Devin Grayson in her one Poison ivy story in "Gotham Knights"... I don't know.. it's that their's.. I believe it's a Silver Age Superman story in which Superman and Batman.. as Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne team up to be mean to Lois Lane, to be cruel to Lois Lane, together, as friends, as jovial friends.. the issue ends with Lois Lane crying and she runs out of a wedding chapel in tears, filled with self-hate.. I think we may have suffered literally decades of a horrific response in all media with Lois Lane because of that .. I believe.. Silver Age .. issue.. in the same precise sense as what happened with Uma Thurman's Poison ivy and Mr. Freeze's wife..."...