another scene in "Gotham; chapter 0", directed by Tim Burton and Jacques Rivette.. the young Christian Bale Bruce Wayne, played .. I think.. by young actor Ben Mackenzie.... is in a battle of wills with a very, very, very effective Joker-copycat.. even more effective than the first or second of the Joker-copycats.. Jeremiah Valeska, his older brother....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r1xwbivI4U



... I made a mistake.. the new copycat-Joker.. his name IS Jeremiah Velaska.. it was Jerome who was his older brother... who was .. the first or second copycat Joker...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbPZUsSqzJU